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	<title>Comments on: The Harshness and Disasters of ADHD Relationships</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2008/08/28/the-harshness-and-disasters-of-adhd-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-17739</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Seattle,

I hope things do indeed get better. With kids I think it may help if, when they reach an age that they understand they are different, that we educate them as to why they are different. Explaining in the most basic form what ADHD is and how it manifests. I believe understanding is key to improving. Relationships are difficult to understand with or without ADHD; however, if we can get the message across as to the &#039;why&#039; child reacts or doesn&#039;t react, that could help avoid a lot of pain and suffering in their future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Seattle,</p>
<p>I hope things do indeed get better. With kids I think it may help if, when they reach an age that they understand they are different, that we educate them as to why they are different. Explaining in the most basic form what ADHD is and how it manifests. I believe understanding is key to improving. Relationships are difficult to understand with or without ADHD; however, if we can get the message across as to the &#8216;why&#8217; child reacts or doesn&#8217;t react, that could help avoid a lot of pain and suffering in their future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SeattleNonADDSpouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeattleNonADDSpouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on by both of you. Have lived it. Unfortunately, too late to not have my 20-year marriage melt down. However, you are helping us both to find a place of understanding for each other rather than bitterness and hate. Now - how do we help the ADD kids not yet in relationships get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on by both of you. Have lived it. Unfortunately, too late to not have my 20-year marriage melt down. However, you are helping us both to find a place of understanding for each other rather than bitterness and hate. Now &#8211; how do we help the ADD kids not yet in relationships get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Pera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one powerful post, Bryan. 

A lack of reciprocity and empathy is indeed a big problem in many relationships affected by ADHD.

There&#039;s also the &quot;high insatiabiity&quot; factor that accompanies &quot;low dopamine.&quot; In other words, there can be a tendency to be rarely satisfied--or only in short bursts. It can take a lot of &quot;reward&quot; to register on the radar screen. If you don&#039;t know this about yourself, you think that other people simply aren&#039;t &quot;doing it&quot; for you. You don&#039;t know that you have a too-high pleasure threshhold.

Moreover, given the famous ADHD &quot;now and not now&quot; sense of time, historical perspective can get lost in the mists, resulting in a &quot;What have you done for me lately?&quot; attitude.

The biggest problem, IMHO, comes when people with ADHD don&#039;t know their own neurobiology and how it contributes to insatiability and low empathy or reciprocity. The biology itself can make for a very limited perspective--like going through life with blinders on, thinking everyone else has the problem.  This is the nature of &quot;denial.:&quot;

As for empathy, some people with ADHD are absolutely convinced they have the empathy of a Mother Teresa, but some of their loved ones argue that yes, there&#039;s something that superficially looks like empathy--for yet another stray dog, for the neighbor down the street whose house needs painting, and for everyone else but family members at home.  That&#039;s not true empathy. 

Empathy is being able to put yourself in someone else&#039;s shoes. This is difficult for many people with ADHD, because they often aren&#039;t able to even empathize with themselves! They don&#039;t empathize with their futures selves, for example, and the health or financial consequences of current actions.  

Compounding this: Insatiability often leads pwADHD (people with ADHD)  to keep trying to achieve more, higher, faster--often becoming workaholics, developing sports injuries, or taking too-risky financial bets--because they&#039;re seldom  really happy with their successes. At the same time, our rather narcissistic culture praises most the person who achieves, achieves, achieves. So, the draw is clearly there.

Anyway, my point is that the same characteristics that can dog a person with ADHD can dog his/her relationships. And it all just compounds and swirls.

Again, though, ADHD is  a very complex situation. It&#039;s a constellation of neurobehaviors, and you don&#039;t need all of them to qualify, just a few. Add personality, family background, etc. and you get a real mosaic. No one-size-fits-all platitudes work with ADHD, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one powerful post, Bryan. </p>
<p>A lack of reciprocity and empathy is indeed a big problem in many relationships affected by ADHD.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the &#8220;high insatiabiity&#8221; factor that accompanies &#8220;low dopamine.&#8221; In other words, there can be a tendency to be rarely satisfied&#8211;or only in short bursts. It can take a lot of &#8220;reward&#8221; to register on the radar screen. If you don&#8217;t know this about yourself, you think that other people simply aren&#8217;t &#8220;doing it&#8221; for you. You don&#8217;t know that you have a too-high pleasure threshhold.</p>
<p>Moreover, given the famous ADHD &#8220;now and not now&#8221; sense of time, historical perspective can get lost in the mists, resulting in a &#8220;What have you done for me lately?&#8221; attitude.</p>
<p>The biggest problem, IMHO, comes when people with ADHD don&#8217;t know their own neurobiology and how it contributes to insatiability and low empathy or reciprocity. The biology itself can make for a very limited perspective&#8211;like going through life with blinders on, thinking everyone else has the problem.  This is the nature of &#8220;denial.:&#8221;</p>
<p>As for empathy, some people with ADHD are absolutely convinced they have the empathy of a Mother Teresa, but some of their loved ones argue that yes, there&#8217;s something that superficially looks like empathy&#8211;for yet another stray dog, for the neighbor down the street whose house needs painting, and for everyone else but family members at home.  That&#8217;s not true empathy. </p>
<p>Empathy is being able to put yourself in someone else&#8217;s shoes. This is difficult for many people with ADHD, because they often aren&#8217;t able to even empathize with themselves! They don&#8217;t empathize with their futures selves, for example, and the health or financial consequences of current actions.  </p>
<p>Compounding this: Insatiability often leads pwADHD (people with ADHD)  to keep trying to achieve more, higher, faster&#8211;often becoming workaholics, developing sports injuries, or taking too-risky financial bets&#8211;because they&#8217;re seldom  really happy with their successes. At the same time, our rather narcissistic culture praises most the person who achieves, achieves, achieves. So, the draw is clearly there.</p>
<p>Anyway, my point is that the same characteristics that can dog a person with ADHD can dog his/her relationships. And it all just compounds and swirls.</p>
<p>Again, though, ADHD is  a very complex situation. It&#8217;s a constellation of neurobehaviors, and you don&#8217;t need all of them to qualify, just a few. Add personality, family background, etc. and you get a real mosaic. No one-size-fits-all platitudes work with ADHD, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arlene, your welcome and thank you. If we learn from the past, we can improve the future... right. That is what I believe.

~Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arlene, your welcome and thank you. If we learn from the past, we can improve the future&#8230; right. That is what I believe.</p>
<p>~Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jac - I agree with you, that there are many other problems we must deal with in relationships other than boredom. This is just one particular issue I notice is talked a lot about on the net. The &#039;too intelligent and too intimidating is not that uncommon either, some describe it you as being out of their league or class? I will write about this very soon, but not everyone is exactly the same, my thoughts are only an overview to expand thoughts and considerations about situations.

Thanks for your comment!

~Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jac &#8211; I agree with you, that there are many other problems we must deal with in relationships other than boredom. This is just one particular issue I notice is talked a lot about on the net. The &#8216;too intelligent and too intimidating is not that uncommon either, some describe it you as being out of their league or class? I will write about this very soon, but not everyone is exactly the same, my thoughts are only an overview to expand thoughts and considerations about situations.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
<p>~Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan,
This is 99% of what the non-ADD spouse BEGS for.  And 99% of the rest of the world looks for.  What a great insight you have provided!
Thank you...and I wish that it would have been taken to heart before the signature on the dreaded line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan,<br />
This is 99% of what the non-ADD spouse BEGS for.  And 99% of the rest of the world looks for.  What a great insight you have provided!<br />
Thank you&#8230;and I wish that it would have been taken to heart before the signature on the dreaded line.</p>
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