Comments on: Don’t let the Science of ADHD fool you! http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/ Bryan Hutchinson's thoughts about ADD ADHD Attention Deficit Disorder and other stuff Sun, 06 May 2012 01:22:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Bryan Hutchinson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27494 Bryan Hutchinson Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:45:35 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27494 Hi Bozana, seems to me you are taking the right steps. Not all people with ADHD fail in school, some excel, taking advantage of the regulated atmosphere and let me tell you, classes in Holland are far more controlled and regulated than in the USA... ya'll are far stricter with behavior, but it doesn't change much from class to class, it's fairly equal and that, I think, helps. It is also something parents are aware of before the child starts school and isn't abusive in any way or fashion, unless there is an exception and that is usually dealt with quickly. This type of atmosphere is something which is desperately lacking in the states and is usually only available in private schools, which are rather expensive. Btw: my mother lives not too far from you; she's a native of the Utrecht area. We just visited Holland over the summer, probably will again next month. Hi Bozana, seems to me you are taking the right steps. Not all people with ADHD fail in school, some excel, taking advantage of the regulated atmosphere and let me tell you, classes in Holland are far more controlled and regulated than in the USA… ya’ll are far stricter with behavior, but it doesn’t change much from class to class, it’s fairly equal and that, I think, helps. It is also something parents are aware of before the child starts school and isn’t abusive in any way or fashion, unless there is an exception and that is usually dealt with quickly. This type of atmosphere is something which is desperately lacking in the states and is usually only available in private schools, which are rather expensive.

Btw: my mother lives not too far from you; she’s a native of the Utrecht area. We just visited Holland over the summer, probably will again next month.

]]> By: Bozana http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27480 Bozana Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:54:57 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27480 Dear Bryan, Scott and all, Evan if the whole world denied existence of ADD/ADHD I would believe that there is a disorder like that. Because my son (and all of you) are TOO SMART TO BE DUMB. Yet, my son doesn't perform at school. Whatever I read, all your posts, description of the symptoms in wikipedia, etc. every word applies. He's got ADD. I now realise that there are 2 cases in the family of people who have ADHD. They don't know it. My nephew was thankfull when I mentioned ADHD as the possible reason for the "failures in his life". He said he would make an appointment to check it. I soon have an appointment at the ADHD Centre in Rotterdam and they will tell me what their medical opinion is. So far I know that they consider my son ADD/ADHD. I know him well, he is ADD but he is bored and restless when he is being tested and he looks like ADHD. At home and at school he is obedient and easy to deal with. I am definitely keeping an open mind for advice, especially from people on this website. Thank you for considering me a good mom. I probably am. I love my son and it breaks my heart to see him being bullied and called names by other kids who are less smart than him. Even if we disregard intelligence as the most important thing in life, my son has compassion and he is trying hard not to hurt people and animals. He is full of love and I'm proud of him for that reason. I am also thankful for the new age technology and that I can now communicate with all of you who are so far away. Regards, Bozana, The Hague, Holland Dear Bryan, Scott and all,

Evan if the whole world denied existence of ADD/ADHD I would believe that there is a disorder like that.
Because my son (and all of you) are TOO SMART TO BE DUMB. Yet, my son doesn’t perform at school.

Whatever I read, all your posts, description of the symptoms in wikipedia, etc. every word applies. He’s got ADD.

I now realise that there are 2 cases in the family of people who have ADHD. They don’t know it.
My nephew was thankfull when I mentioned ADHD as the possible reason for the “failures in his life”. He said he would make an appointment to check it.

I soon have an appointment at the ADHD Centre in Rotterdam and they will tell me what their medical opinion is.
So far I know that they consider my son ADD/ADHD. I know him well, he is ADD but he is bored and restless when he is being tested and he looks like ADHD.
At home and at school he is obedient and easy to deal with.

I am definitely keeping an open mind for advice, especially from people on this website.
Thank you for considering me a good mom. I probably am. I love my son and it breaks my heart to see him being bullied and called names by other kids who are less smart than him.
Even if we disregard intelligence as the most important thing in life, my son has compassion and he is trying hard not to hurt people and animals. He is full of love and I’m proud of him for that reason.

I am also thankful for the new age technology and that I can now communicate with all of you who are so far away.

Regards,
Bozana, The Hague, Holland

]]> By: Scott Hutson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27463 Scott Hutson Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:07:31 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27463 Bozana, Bryan is giving you very good advise, and I agree with all of it! Bryan said he speaks from personal experiences. I can tell you, from my own...I can remember many things from my own childhood, and the way I thought about things. I am 48 now, but I still have the same thoughts I did when I was 7, and the way I looked at life, and tried to cope with life. It would have been so much better(Ibeleive), if ADHD was being looked at by Dr.'s, and taken seriously in the 60's. I wish you and your son the best of luck, in finding the right Dr.'s, that are now taking ADHD and the reality of it seriously. They are out there, but some still live in the 60's, and are not facing reality. I promise you, your son will remember the good things, that a good Dr. helps him with, 31 yrs from now. Scott. Bozana,

Bryan is giving you very good advise, and I agree with all of it! Bryan said he speaks from personal experiences. I can tell you, from my own…I can remember many things from my own childhood, and the way I thought about things.

I am 48 now, but I still have the same thoughts I did when I was 7, and the way I looked at life, and tried to cope with life. It would have been so much better(Ibeleive), if ADHD was being looked at by Dr.’s, and taken seriously in the 60′s.

I wish you and your son the best of luck, in finding the right Dr.’s, that are now taking ADHD and the reality of it seriously. They are out there, but some still live in the 60′s, and are not facing reality.

I promise you, your son will remember the good things, that a good Dr. helps him with, 31 yrs from now.

Scott.

]]> By: Bryan Hutchinson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27181 Bryan Hutchinson Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:58:33 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27181 Yes, of course I believe you Bozana! First, don't blame yourself for an abusive husband/father, that never helps. You're out of the relationship now and you cannot change the past, that's what I think on that. Also, it's important as a mother/parent to believe in your child and see the positives, that will help him much... even so, what will also help him, I believe, additionally is to listen to the professionals which are around your son in his learning atmosphere and find out exactly what can be done to improve those situations so that your son can have the best chance of gaining a good education and not feel 'less than' others. I wouldn't say that you must give in in to every suggestion; however, taking a 3rd person perspective and trying to see the situation from their standpoint as well, may give you additional insight that you might not have as a protective, loving mother, that you are... trauma is tricky and kids have a way of disguising it, trust me, I know this well from personal experience. If just one person noticed such, it might be easier to dismiss; however, you are indicating that others are noticing it too, that should raise a few warning bells to at least seek further testing or counseling… thanks for commenting and I hope to see you on our ADDer World Social Network… remember, these are just my thoughts, from my personal experiences, it is always best if you find a good reliable, trustworthy professional physician in your area to do the proper examinations and possible treatment. Bryan Yes, of course I believe you Bozana! First, don’t blame yourself for an abusive husband/father, that never helps. You’re out of the relationship now and you cannot change the past, that’s what I think on that. Also, it’s important as a mother/parent to believe in your child and see the positives, that will help him much… even so, what will also help him, I believe, additionally is to listen to the professionals which are around your son in his learning atmosphere and find out exactly what can be done to improve those situations so that your son can have the best chance of gaining a good education and not feel ‘less than’ others. I wouldn’t say that you must give in in to every suggestion; however, taking a 3rd person perspective and trying to see the situation from their standpoint as well, may give you additional insight that you might not have as a protective, loving mother, that you are… trauma is tricky and kids have a way of disguising it, trust me, I know this well from personal experience. If just one person noticed such, it might be easier to dismiss; however, you are indicating that others are noticing it too, that should raise a few warning bells to at least seek further testing or counseling… thanks for commenting and I hope to see you on our ADDer World Social Network… remember, these are just my thoughts, from my personal experiences, it is always best if you find a good reliable, trustworthy professional physician in your area to do the proper examinations and possible treatment.

Bryan

]]> By: Bozana http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27176 Bozana Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:05:14 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27176 It's been a month and a half that someone mentioned that my son could have ADD. Everyone who's known him from his birth expected him to be excellent at school, the best of all kids. And he isn't. He is 7. Nowadays I'm strugging against everyone's opinion. Just to mention a few: the psychologist tested him "slow", his teacher says he is audacious, my family says he has traumas because of his drinking father's behaviour (it's my fault I didn't divorce him on time), my friends say he is manipulative, i.e. attention seeker. The reality is: He radiates brightness; he is excellent in two languages, he is learning English as his third because he loves it; he can express his opinions, conclusions and feelings as an adult; he might have traumas (which could be my fault because I didn't divorce earlier) and he is not manipulative at all. He's got ADD. Do you believe me at least? I know you do and I thank you for that. I'm reading your posts, recognising many things and feel great relief. Regards to all, Bozana It’s been a month and a half that someone mentioned that my son could have ADD. Everyone who’s known him from his birth expected him to be excellent at school, the best of all kids. And he isn’t. He is 7.
Nowadays I’m strugging against everyone’s opinion. Just to mention a few: the psychologist tested him “slow”, his teacher says he is audacious, my family says he has traumas because of his drinking father’s behaviour (it’s my fault I didn’t divorce him on time), my friends say he is manipulative, i.e. attention seeker.

The reality is: He radiates brightness; he is excellent in two languages, he is learning English as his third because he loves it; he can express his opinions, conclusions and feelings as an adult; he might have traumas (which could be my fault because I didn’t divorce earlier) and he is not manipulative at all. He’s got ADD.
Do you believe me at least? I know you do and I thank you for that.
I’m reading your posts, recognising many things and feel great relief.

Regards to all, Bozana

]]> By: Bryan Hutchinson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27130 Bryan Hutchinson Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:46:54 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27130 Hi Scott, The whole 'gifts' thing has gotten way out of context and isn't really a debate anymore, because, really, few know what is being described as 'GIFT' anymore. Whatever you see as a gift to you, is a gift to you and it doesn't matter if someone agrees with you or not, that's irrelevant. The symptoms and traits still should be treated for what they are. Good to hear from you and I very much enjoyed your blog post on your blog btw! Bryan Hi Scott,

The whole ‘gifts’ thing has gotten way out of context and isn’t really a debate anymore, because, really, few know what is being described as ‘GIFT’ anymore. Whatever you see as a gift to you, is a gift to you and it doesn’t matter if someone agrees with you or not, that’s irrelevant. The symptoms and traits still should be treated for what they are.

Good to hear from you and I very much enjoyed your blog post on your blog btw!

Bryan

]]> By: Scott Hutson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27128 Scott Hutson Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:20:59 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27128 Bryan, I have to agree with you, on the subject of ..positive thinking. And the importance of not letting science dictate how I personaly deal with A.D.D.. I am now trying to convince myself, that A.D.D./ADHD, did not control me and give me "gifts" as a child. I go back and forth in my mind, on this subject. And state things, that I am not sure about, but I think are proof. I am still learning, and I need to slow down, and not judge others, but learn what others think about themselves. I will take this post as a step foward for me... in my journey. Thank You for this Bryan, You have helped me today! Bryan,

I have to agree with you, on the subject of ..positive thinking. And the importance of not letting science dictate how I personaly deal with A.D.D..

I am now trying to convince myself, that A.D.D./ADHD, did not control me and give me “gifts” as a child. I go back and forth in my mind, on this subject. And state things, that I am not sure about, but I think are proof.

I am still learning, and I need to slow down, and not judge others, but learn what others think about themselves. I will take this post as a step foward for me… in my journey.

Thank You for this Bryan, You have helped me today!

]]> By: Bryan Hutchinson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27122 Bryan Hutchinson Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:20:14 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27122 Yes, Mindy, I agree, it is heartbreaking when your doctor does not believe ADHD exists or that it is a problem at all. I think we are moving out of the dark ages though and awareness is spreading. Yes, autism awareness is growing thanks to our president; however, so is ADHD awareness. Dr. Parker is currently writing a book about ADHD medication that will help both the patient and doctors better treat you and me. Thanks for commenting. Bryan Yes, Mindy, I agree, it is heartbreaking when your doctor does not believe ADHD exists or that it is a problem at all. I think we are moving out of the dark ages though and awareness is spreading. Yes, autism awareness is growing thanks to our president; however, so is ADHD awareness. Dr. Parker is currently writing a book about ADHD medication that will help both the patient and doctors better treat you and me.

Thanks for commenting.

Bryan

]]> By: Mindy http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27079 Mindy Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:18:55 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27079 I agree that science has helped us with ADD. The problem is that there are not enough people in the medical field that belives it exists, which is sad. Some Dr's I have seen in the last few months see on my records that I have ADD and the meds I take and the Dr's think I am crazy and tell me I am under stress or any pain I have is fibromyalgia. I tested 5 Dr's and the ones that had no idea of my ADD did tests and believed I had a probelm the Dr's that did know I had ADD, treated me like an idiot and said here is another antidepressent. I talked to my counselor about this yesterday and she agrees that many Dr's do look at ADD as crazy people and think their problems are in their head. Now all you here is that Autism is growing as fast rates. No it is just that Dr's are finally testing for it. You article s great and wish everything on paper meant that it can be used... Makes you think......Keep them coming because that is how people will become more aware... I agree that science has helped us with ADD. The problem is that there are not enough people in the medical field that belives it exists, which is sad. Some Dr’s I have seen in the last few months see on my records that I have ADD and the meds I take and the Dr’s think I am crazy and tell me I am under stress or any pain I have is fibromyalgia. I tested 5 Dr’s and the ones that had no idea of my ADD did tests and believed I had a probelm the Dr’s that did know I had ADD, treated me like an idiot and said here is another antidepressent. I talked to my counselor about this yesterday and she agrees that many Dr’s do look at ADD as crazy people and think their problems are in their head.
Now all you here is that Autism is growing as fast rates. No it is just that Dr’s are finally testing for it.
You article s great and wish everything on paper meant that it can be used…
Makes you think……Keep them coming because that is how people will become more aware…

]]> By: Bryan Hutchinson http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2009/10/05/don%e2%80%99t-let-the-science-of-adhd-fool-you/comment-page-1/#comment-27072 Bryan Hutchinson Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:08:12 +0000 http://adderworld.com/blog1/?p=2428#comment-27072 Katy! Dont' chew your leg off! :) Katy! Dont’ chew your leg off! :)

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